Star Wars: The Rise Of Skywalker promises to be the epic conclusion to the Skywalker Saga nine-film arc that started over 40 years ago. As fans anxiously await to see how it will all end, ThatsItLA joined their fellow journalists and bloggers to talk to director and co-writer J.J. Abrams, co-writer Chris Terrio, Lucasfilm president Kathleen Kennedy, and film stars Adam Driver, Daisy Ridley, John Boyega, Oscar Isaac, Anthony Daniels, Naomi Ackie, Richard E. Grant, Keri Russell, Joonas Suotamo, Kelly Marie Tran, and Billy Dee Williams about what kind of impact the Star Wars legacy will leave behind as they bring the Skywalker saga to a close, what Star Wars means to them, and more.
Here are a couple of things that we heard from the press conference.
1 – Under Pressure
It has been nearly four years since Abrams left his post as director of the first new Star Wars trilogy, and a lot has changed. Though there have been two spinoffs and The Last Jedi, Abrams was never intended to return to direct the grand finale to the Skywalker Saga. But that all changed when Lucasfilm parted ways with Colin Trevorrow, who was originally supposed to direct. And Abrams did not have the luxury of time to meet that deadline. But one of the differences between The Rise Of Skywalker and The Force Awakens was the shift in pressure.
“The difference is the pressure shifted. We didn’t know, in the beginning of The Force Awakens, exactly what it would look like – Daisy Ridley, Adam Driver, Oscar Isaac, and John Boyega, what would that cast be like? We had to figure it out and discover it. On the first day of The Rise Of Skywalker, we knew some of those things. What we didn’t know was everything else. This is wrapping up not one film, not three films, but nine. The responsibility was significant and the movie. The scale of the movie is pretty enormous, and we knew none of that would matter and none of that would work if we didn’t care deeply about the people. So the most important thing, the people, we were good with. We knew we had this incredible cast who I think has gone above and beyond anyone’s expectations and are truly spectacular in the film.”
2 – Adding Humanity To A Massive Project
Now that Abrams had the responsibility of bringing not only this trilogy but an entire saga to an end, the director and co-writer knew that there were massive expectations. So in coming up with the process of writing The Rise Of Skywalker script, Abrams simply had remembered to keep it as human as possible.
“Because we had worked on The Force Awakens, Larry Kasdan and I, and Michelle Rejwan and Kathleen Kennedy, the producers, we had talked about quite a few things back in the day. So, it was a bit of picking up where we left off. The fact is what Rian Johnson had done in The Last Jedi had set up some things that were wonderful for this story. One of the things being the cast was separated, the characters weren’t together for the entire movie, essentially. So, this is the first time the group got to be together. Chris [Terrio] and I knew immediately that we wanted to tell a story of a group adventure. There were some very specific things that we were both drawn to immediately, and we just started doing the thing that you do, which is you say, ‘what do you desperately want to see and what feels right?’ And my job as the director was to make sure that all the pressures of all the obvious things, the expectations, the studio, and all those practical and logistical issues weren’t a problem brought on set. On the set, we can have a sort of buoyancy, a sense of being spry. While it was never quite an indie on the set of this movie, we needed to keep the thing feeling as human as possible, and not like a massive machine.”
3 – Why JJ Abrams Was The Chosen One (Again)
As president of Lucasfilm, Kathleen Kennedy has a lot of say in terms of who will direct the latest Star Wars feature. So it was a bit of a surprise to see that Abrams would be back as director of The Rise Of Skywalker after the original plan was to have three different directors helming a cinematic episode each. But Kennedy explained why she went back by simply retelling a story that she told during The Force Awakens.
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“I met J.J., along with a filmmaker by the name of Matt Reeves, when they were 15. They had won a contest for a movie they had made, and I said to Steven Spielberg, ‘why don’t we hire these two guys to come in and take your home movies and clean them up and give them break and give them a start in the business?’ Needless to say, for years, Steven and I have watched JJ, and his career just take off from that point. And when George Lucas asked me to step in and take over Lucasfilm, what I didn’t know was that the company would be sold only months later, and when it was sold, there was an edict that we needed to make the movie in a barely short amount of time. The one thing I know about Star Wars and the one thing I know about these kinds of tentpole movies is this unique combination of needing dramatic storytelling, gravitas, and a great sense of humor. I think there are a few filmmakers that really embody all of those things and also have the capability to manage something this huge, and J.J. was my first choice.”
4 – A Good Eight Minutes
Sometimes the responsibility of writing a Star Wars film is just too big for one person to handle alone. Although we have seen a few accomplish that daunting task, being asked to co-write one is not only exciting, it can also be a little bit intimidating. Especially when you are tasked with writing the final chapter. That’s what co-writer Chris Terrio ran into. For despite being overly excited, to the point where he did somersaults for “eight minutes,” he knew the expectations were high.
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“I think I was on East 12th Street in Manhattan when I spoke to J.J., and J.J. had been calling and leaving messages, and I was in a screening, and I didn’t have J.J.’s cell phone number in my cell phone, so it was a random 310 number, so I thought ‘why is this random person from Los Angeles calling me?’ And finally, I just took the message and I sort of hyperventilated a little and I called back and he said, ‘hey, do you want to write Episode IX with me?’ He didn’t say the word Star or Wars. So, for a good eight minutes, I let myself leap into the air and then I realized, ‘oh my god, we have to land this vehicle, somehow. We have to land the biggest Star Destroyer in the world on the head of a needle.’ And then we got to work. I live in New York, but I came out to LA, and J.J. and I just started at Bad Robot, there is a room with these whiteboards and we just started writing. Eventually, these whiteboards became a word document that was 10 pages, then 50 pages, then 121 pages, and then that became a script.”
5 – Anonymity Of Zorii Bliss
Though we don’t know too much about Zorii Bliss, we know that she is a character who is shrouded behind a helmet of anonymity. But not knowing anything about the faceless character does add an extra amount of intrigue. During the press conference, Keri Russell talked about the call she got from Abrams to play the character.
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“J.J. called me and said, ‘do you want to be in Star Wars?’ And I was like, ‘uh, yeah.’ But then he told me about the idea about the mask. Personally, I love the mask. I mean, that is my fantasy dream sequence, that I can see everyone in this super-tough version of myself costume and no one can see me. That is my dream. It is a real powerplay in a way because no one can see what you are thinking but you can see everyone else. It was amazing.”
She added, “The other thing is, I’ve known J.J. for so long, and I feel like we have a shorthand and we speak the same language, in a way, I just feel like J.J. got to finish a piece of history in a way by getting to do this. He did just a great job.”
Abrams then chimed in about how much the Zorii Bliss actress loved the mask. “Keri loved the mask so much that the first two days she worked as Zorii, I never saw her face. She could have like most people, taking the mask off in between takes or after a couple of hours or after the whole day, but she walked onto the set in character with the mask on, not even in character, with the mask on. She was like, ‘hey!’ And I was like, ‘hey, do you want to take the mask off?’ She’s like, ‘nope.’ And she had it on the entire time, and then the next day the same thing. And I got to work with Keri for a couple of days and never saw her.”
Russell then responded with, “You would be talking to me and say, ‘could you take that off? It’s freaking me out.'”
“It is weird because you are looking at… you don’t know,” Abrams corroborated.
6 – Jannah Uses Vulnerability As A Strength
Star Wars is a pretty big deal for any actor to be a part of, let alone a new one. But for Naomi Ackie, who plays Jannah, her preparation came through the physicality of the character.
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“I feel like Jannah’s strength was in her body like she was a very grounded character. I got to do pullups, horse riding, and I guess with that came a confidence that I haven’t previously experienced. Working with JJ and figuring out what the balance was between the strength of a character but also a vulnerable side and someone with a heart, you don’t always just have to be like strong and fierce, sometimes vulnerability is a strength. So kind of finding that balance was really interesting. I feel like we found it by the end. We watched it yesterday, I’m not being funny, I left it like my heart was beating so hard. It’s the most visually beautiful thing I’ve ever seen. It makes you feel like a child. There was an element of feeling like a child on set.”
7 – Greater Than The Sum Of Its Parts
Things weren’t looking too good for Rose Tico who appeared to be unconscious after rescuing Finn in The Last Jedi. But it looks like she is alive and well and taking command in The Rise Of Skywalker. With a more expansive role, Kelly Marie Tran talked a little bit about the comradery on set.
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“It was really wonderful. I think that there, from the last film, there seems to be such a bond between everyone and also the new guys. There’s, it sounds so cheesy and cliché, and it is, but it truly feels like it’s a family and we are all just there to have fun and be a part of something that is so much bigger than us as individuals. And that is really a cool thing to share.”
8 – Carrie’s Legacy
Carrie Fisher is undoubtedly the most important figure of the Star Wars legacy, which makes her passing a great tragedy as she wouldn’t physically be able to see the Skywalker Saga to its completion. Tran shared her thoughts on what it meant to be working alongside her.
“I can only speak for myself, there is sort of this idea that J.J.has talked about ending this in nine films, and Carrie was such a big part of all that. So, I think for me, personally, there was a lot of wanting to honor this thing and do right by this thing. And I think she is pretty effing incredible in this movie.”
Abrams then chimed in about how she integrated previous footage from The Force Awakens and used it in The Rise Of Skywalker.
“Like everyone here who knew her, loved Carrie, and I knew her for a long time but not very well, but for a while before The Force Awakens. Obviously, as we discussed continuing the story without Leia was an impossibility, and there was no way we were going to do a digital Leia, there was no way we were going to of course recast her, but we couldn’t do it without her. But we couldn’t do it without her. So when we looked back the scenes we didn’t use in The Force Awakens, what we realized is that we had an opportunity and we could use that footage and the lines that she was saying and the lighting…”
It was at that time that the lighting in the room had gone off, which Abrams took as a sign that Fisher was there with them. “That’s so Carrie by the way to do that.”
“We knew we had the opportunity to use the footage to create scenes that Leia would be in. Of course, had Carrie been around, and it is still impossible for me to believe she isn’t because we have been editing with her for about a year, and she has been very much alive with us in every scene. If we had Carrie around, would we have done things differently here and there? Of course, we would have. But we had an opportunity to have Carrie in the movie. Working with all the actors, including Billie Lourd, her daughter, who’s in scenes with her, we were able to, I think, do something Carrie herself would be happy with. She’s great in the movie, of course. It’s emotional and moving to think of her and how sad we all are that she’s not sitting here with us today.”
9 – Chewbacca’s Endurance
Chewbacca has also been a part of the Star Wars legacy since 1977. Though he has largely played a supporting role, the character continues to be an icon who has stood by Han Solo in many adventures and the war against the Empire and First Order. First played by the late Peter Mayhew, Chewbacca has appeared in eight Star Wars films spanning the Original Trilogy, The Revenge Of The Sith. However, when Mayhew could no longer play as the character, it was up to Joonas Suotamo to continue the character’s endurance in the Skywalker saga. And the actor explains why the character has endured for so long.
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“For that, we have to go back to 1977, when George found Peter Mayhew to play this character that nobody knew that thing going into a film like this. I think Chewbacca’s endurance has to do with the fact that Peter’s unique physicality that I inherited and I try to bring on screen, he created this character that moves not quite like a human, it’s very unique, the way Chewbacca appears on the screen. That is what created the memorability of the character. And even if they haven’t seen Star Wars, they might know who Chewbacca is and that’s what I am the custodian of. When Peter passed this last year, I was heartbroken, but I’d like to think, in this film, I attempted to do him justice while working with this incredible cast. I am really happy that we are a part of something that is so much bigger than ourselves and that we still get to play and have fun. For that, I am forever grateful to be a part of this.”
Suotamo later would give a Chewbacca grunt out to his son, who knew exactly what it meant.
10 – Anthony Daniels’s New Perspective On Star Wars
Because Anthony Daniels is one of the only actors who has appeared in all nine Star Wars films, it gives the actor the very unique perspective of seeing how each generation has responded to the individual trilogies that have been released throughout the last 40 years.
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“I just realized, in the last few months, something that I haven’t gotten before because I have been in all the movies. The questions I really don’t like is ‘what was it like’ or ‘how does it feel to be in Star Wars?’ Well, I only just realized because I have been in all of them and all of the spinoffs and stuff, I am so close to it it’s like having your nose up against the planet. You can’t see how big the planet is. And gradually I am beginning to get a perspective on it and that comes from talking to fans and people who say what Star Wars meant to them. It has meant something completely different to me. It’s a job, it’s kind of fun, awkward sometimes, as well all know, it’s not a smooth ride, but finally I get to see it from the other perspective and that is the perspective of the audience who have been there all this time and I am really glad to have survived all of this long enough to get this perspective.
11 – Richard E. Grant Is On Cloud Nine
It wouldn’t be completely surprising for a studio to ask its cast and crew to keep their reactions to themselves after attending a private screening of a film like Star Wars. But that didn’t someone like Academy Award nominee Richard E. Grant from expressing his overwhelming excitement after watching the final cut of the film.
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“I thought that Disney would sue me because I think you are not supposed to say anything, but I didn’t tweet any spoilers. “Having seen the first one, I was a theater student when I was 20 years old before the younger cast were even born, it’s an extraordinarily emotional thing to see the passing of time that goes through all these movies. It felt like a real culmination of everything I have ever read in the Bible, Greek mythology, the Wizard of Oz, all rolled into one, in this extraordinary summation of the whole story that delivers an emotionally whollop at the end, that I was totally unprepared for, I was wiped out, and I barely slept.”
12 – Billy Dee Williams Getting Back Into Character With Ease
One might think that after not playing an iconic character for decades that it would be difficult for an actor to get back into that groove. But not for someone like Billy Dee Williams, who played Lando Calrissian in The Empire Strikes Back, The Return Of The Jedi, and once more in upcoming The Rise Of Skywalker. Williams said it wasn’t difficult at all and that he didn’t have to watch any of the older stuff or any of the previous films from the new trilogy.
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“The whole idea for me, I have a lot of admiration for this young man called Monsieur J.J. Abrams. It was pretty much like when I worked with George, that was an opportunity to work with somebody who was pretty extraordinary, and here again, I had the opportunity to work with somebody who is really extraordinary. Actually, we were working together when he was doing LOST, I played myself playing a killer, which I thought was a very interesting Idea. And I thought, ‘this guy is really crazy.’ But this has been a great pleasure for me, coming back to Lando. I didn’t think that it would happen. I just wrote it off. I said, ‘I did what I had to do.’ But when I got the call from J.J. and when we met, I just chuckled, because I thought it was just a wonderful gift. So I’m a very, very happy human being right now. Thanks very much.”
13 – Oscar Isaac Swashbuckling Attitude And Fashion
Oscar Isaac, who has been playing as the Resistance’s ace pilot Poe Dameron since The Force Awakens, describes his character as a bit of a wildcard whose swashbuckling demeanor comes through from his pants and knee-high boots.
“Poe has always been kind of a wildcard energy and figuring out where he fits in the story and what story is being told. I think with this one, J.J. and I talked a bit about – I remember J.J. being excited about dirtying up the squeaky fly boy image he has for a bit and revealing a little bit more about his personality. I think that comes out because I have been taken away from my little box in space, you know. I get to join my friends this time, and you really get to see the interaction with these three, and the hope that I think he, in particular, he brings in this one, kind of a relentless, almost aggressive optimism that he has and how that is tested and how he tries to be there for his friends and tries to push them when it seems quite hopeless.”
14 – It Only Takes One Shot
One thing that hardly makes it into a Star Wars film is the one-shot take. The technique is used to have the audience follow its characters or see exposition being set up through a tracking shot before it cuts to another angle or scene. During the press conference, Isaac talked about how The Rise Of Skywalker would have a long-take scene.
“I think also the way that we shot a lot of these scenes, there was a looseness to it. There were things shot in big beautiful choreographed takes that are just astounding to watch where you would follow one character walking through this maze of an amazing planet with all these Stormtroopers and aliens, and you realize it is this one amazing continuous take with us talking over each other. So that kind of trust that J.J. allowed a real spark of vitality.”
15 – The Juiciest Space Bromance
Ever since Finn needed Poe’s help to defect from the First Order, fans have fantasized about the obvious bromance between the two. And who could deny that they had terrific chemistry? From Finn taking Poe’s jacket to Poe entrusting Finn to go on a dangerous mission, it has always been about getting the two together on the same screen as much as possible. And from what we have seen in The Rise Of Skywalker, so far through trailers and images, the two looks like they will be inseparable. John Boyega, who plays Finn, talked a little bit about the natural chemistry and vibe not only between the two characters but between himself and Isaac. He couldn’t explain it really. “I just like the guy,” Boyega said.
Isaac chimed in on how, during The Force Awakens, Boyega would walk into his trailer to run through a scene, and how they would both get excited about doing it. “We were in the dressing room, like butt to butt, running a scene together and from then on we’ve been in that position.”
Boyega then said, “I felt most comfortable while auditioning doing the scenes where Poe was involved. I always liked the guys in the film. I always liked the boys, and I love that element.”
16 – Proactive Love
All jokes aside, Boyega sees Finn’s relationship with Rey very differently when compared to that with his relationship with Poe. Though he is loyal to the Resistance, he is the one person who will stand by Rey no matter what, no matter where she is on her journey.
“I just like loyalty. Loyalty is very very important in my personal life. I just think that it is super important to be loyal and to understand the way in which people want to be loved and communicate. Proactive love is something that Finn does on a day to day basis. Throughout the film, a lot of the time, Rey is going on this really hard journey as a character blessed with so much power, and Finn tries to support her on that journey, and sometimes it’s hard.”
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He continued, “In my real life, if I tried to get in contact with you three or four times, and you’re going off, I am going to leave you alone. Finn is going to come for you and try to make it work, regardless. Over the years, I’ve learned more and more. In general, I’m a nice guy, but I’m not always nice. I guess that consistency of niceness from Finn gives me questions in my head.”
16 – Ben Solo Is Kylo Ren And Kylo Ren Is Ben Solo
Ben Solo’s past trauma set him on course to embrace the Dark Side of The Force. He was then further manipulated by Supreme Emperor Snoke who took advantage of Ben’s anger after he discovered that Luke Skywalker, his then uncle and Jedi mentor, tried to kill him. Now going by Kylo Ren, the new Sith Lord is in a position of power and seeks not only to wipe out the Resistance but his past as Ben Solo as well.
Adam Driver recognized the complexity that comes with playing a character who has embraced his dark persona and rejected his past.
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“I think maybe subconsciously,” Driver said about bringing Ben Solo’s heritage into the Kylo Ren performance. “When people are actively trying to deny a certain part of their lives, I think they can do it pretty successfully. And it just turns into what is happening around them that brings it out of them. So, I think maybe, but I don’t think it is something we actively talked about playing. It is definitely in the film. I think that’s a testament to the writing, that from the beginning in Force Awakens, it was intentional that it was the force awakening for both sides, for the light and the dark. J.J., even in those first meetings, talked about someone who is unformed, but in control of his faculties, and knows where he fits, which is helpful for me as an actor because we were figuring out the same thing. It totally echoes what is going on in the story, especially in the first one, a new cast figuring out where you fit in the legacy that spans so much time. That was helpful.”
17 – Daisy Ridley Confronting The Physical And Emotional Demands Of Playing Rey
Throughout all of the Star Wars films, there has been a balance of physicality and emotion, and that is no different in The Rise Of Skywalker. And though she is working with Abrams once more, she found it to be tricky to sustain some of that emotion while also carrying the image of being able to be very physical. Here’s what she had to say:
“It’s tricky because I’d understand what J.J. [Abrams] was asking me. I’d be like ‘I know what you’re asking. I just can’t quite get there yet.’ So that would probably be the most tricky thing in sustaining that emotion. There’s more of a, I would say, a singular intention that is tiring because, even in the emotional scenes, there’s a physical containment.”
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She continued, “It’s just so strange because I’ve gone from a film with a lot of like ‘Please be my friend Luke’ and he’s like, ‘Go away…’ And then very much the stuff with Adam [Driver]. So, coming back was so great. But it would be so easy to just flow into it that you’re like ‘Am I acting? Is this what is required?’ Because I’m basically bouncing off of Oscar [Isaac] and John [Boyega] and Joonas [Suotamo] and Anthony [Daniels], in such a joyous way that you just feel like you’re having a chat with your pals. So, it’s not, like, difficult, but it’s strange wondering how that general vibe is going to translate into a scene
In terms of when it was and it wasn’t working, Ridley says she knew when it wasn’t working because she would look over and Abrams would give her a look, and at other times it would be the opposite. “I think I felt when it was working because you are feeling the thing,” she said.
18 – Going Beyond Being Just A Popcorn Film
On the surface, Star Wars looks like the typical blockbuster tentpole that is high on action, filled with humor, and has terrific character work on both sides of good and evil. But if one were to look deeper, they would see the mythology it has created and the message of possibility, a sense of unity, and most importantly hope it is delivering. Here’s what Abrams had to say:
“I like to think that when you are working on something, especially something, and I say something like this as if these kinds of things come along all the time, and they never do, and I am still grateful for that call from Kathy, the truth is that there is the movie that you know you’re presenting to the world, and then there is the thing that you are doing not necessarily secretly but meaningfully. We live in a crazy world. We live in a crazy time. Star Wars for me was about hope, it was about community, it was about the underdog, and it was about bringing people together. Seeing all oddballs represented and the most unlikely friends in the most unlikely places, and the family that you make is really your family. To tell a story that is of course a giant spectacle [with] blockbuster wrapping, and the thing that mattered to me most – more than all the spectacular, unbelievable, I would argue the best work that ILM has ever done, all the departments going beyond expectations – the thing that matters, and I will say, most and only in the film is the people who are sitting here and what you’re watching and the eyes of the characters and the heart of the characters. For me, rather than give away themes that [co-writer] Chris [Terrio] and I talked about doing from the beginning and what our specifics are, I will say that it really is about hope. And it’s about coming back to a sense of possibility, about unity, and if Star Wars can’t do that for us, I don’t know what can.”
19 – Saying Farewell
Of course, the task of writing the final chapter of the epic Skywalker Saga is a bit frightening because there is a huge amount of expectations that there needed to be a conclusion that would not only bring the Saga to a close in a meaningful way but also something that would make the fans happy. So while writing it can be a bit bittersweet for Abrams and Terrio, there was a feeling of dread that they both came across as the pages got closer and closer to the end. Terrio said:
“There was a moment in the process where J.J. and I were agonizing over something in the third act and we were in a room with Michelle Rejwan and Kathleen Kennedy, and we couldn’t seem to get it. So we went outside the room, and Rick Carter, our production designer, said, ‘I think the reason why you and J.J. cannot write this scene is because you don’t want Star Wars to end.’ And I looked at J.J. and we knew he was right, and then we had to go and write it.”
But while the scripting phase was over, there was a chance for him to still be a part of the process through editing, reshoots, and scoring. Terrio added:
“Of course, the movie is remade on the set, remade in editing, remade in scoring, and remade in all kinds of ways, so we kept rediscovering the story. But I have to say, I think both of us mourned the moment we typed the character’s names for the last time. The moment of joy when you type Lando, type some words underneath Lando is something that is indescribable but also the moment of sadness and longing when you type in for the last time is memorable.”
Abrams recalled when Terrio first screamed about being given the opportunity to write Star Wars after hearing about how much of a fan he was and has not regretted choosing to co-write the script with him. Here’s what Abrams had to say:
“I was such a fan of Chris’ and read a number of his screenplays. Argo, I thought was so beautifully written, I needed to have someone writing this with me, who would from the very beginning, remind me what Star Wars meant, but has not been inside of it before the way I had. I said to Chris at the very beginning, ‘If you do this, you are going to be with me for the whole time until the very end,” and Chris being the humble man that he is made some self-deprecating joke about how I won’t want him around after that. And we worked together throughout production, throughout post, in the trenches, with Michelle and Kathy, kicking every tire and shaking every tree, doing whatever we could to ensure that we were telling the best possible story that we could. I cannot tell you how grateful I am to have this gentleman’s partnership during the movie.”
20 – What Do You Want Your Legacy To Be?
The Rise Of Skywalker is so much more than just the end of one of the greatest cinematic stories ever to be told, it represents the idea of hope, possibility, and unity through the characters that appear on screen. And because the saga has endured so much in its 40-year history, it has allowed fans to share their love for it with future generations. And the cast understands the kind of impact they are leaving behind as they close the door on it. For Ridley, she is excited to be a part of that at a time when the call for more change and representation is at its highest. Here’s what she had to say:
“I think, in itself, to be part of something, like a lot of people in cinema are talking about representation and change and aren’t doing it. So I think, in itself, being part of a team of people that look a little different, that are from different places, like in whatever form that is – gender, race, whatever it is – I think that, in itself, is a legacy to be proud of.”
She added, “Like J.J. was saying, this is a film of hope. And I think we are reflective of the world at large, There are a lot of people up against magnificent forces that are fighting the good fight. And, you know, the characters aren’t real, but what they’re doing is perilous in cinema. So to be able to portray even a tiny part of that in this crazy world is very special.”
Star Wars: The Rise Of Skywalker opens in theaters on December 20, 2019.